I’m like, I should read some transgender webcomics where the main character isn’t also queer. I guess I’ll read mock girl, she seems like a very nice, very straight-
never mind. I’m not complaining though 🙂
Hooray for queer trans women!
I thought the same thing, but came at it from a different direction, and kind-of wanted to have a discussion about it: so here’s my thoughts, regurgitated on a ‘random’ comment thread on the internet.
The Lesbian Trans-Woman trope appears fairly often.
Most of the Transpeople I know of have Female partners.
Without any citation, and based solely off of my personal expierence: I feel that this is because of both real and imagined non-acceptance of Transpeople by cisgender men. Men are socialized to “not be a sissy”, and I feel like part of that bleeds over to their relationships. In essence: men who are dating dating any non-cis-females are constantly challenging that societal taboo, few grow past it. I feel that Women (and Non-Binary and Transpeople), are the only ones who are “open-minded” enough to have a ‘safe’ and meaningful relationship with.
Also a Cis-person with a Trans or NB partner who sticks around (I feel) is more likely to grow into a NB individual anyways. Stereotypical Gender Norms be dying, yo!
Context: I’m an Androgyne individual who was socialized male for 30-odd years, and has had trouble balancing the Female side of their psyche. I’m still petrified of exactly how to express myself in public when I’m feeling particularly fem.
Well, honestly, the reason that I wanted a straight trans woman’s narrative is because I wanted something outside of my own experience. I’ve noticed that basically all the trans webcomics on the internet are also some kind of not straight orientation. This applies to trans guys too though, so I personally think it’s more that the type of trans person who is highly motivated to be visible, either in personal interactions or by writing a webcomic, belongs to the double minority of trans and queer people. Or at least that is how it seems to me.
Anyway, as a trans bi woman that is much more commonly attracted to women than men, I would have to say that honestly it has less to do for me with being unable to find cis men that would accept me and more just that I tend to like girls more. However, I live on a large college campus, so I am certainly insulated from a large amount of close minded cis men.
However, on the other hand, for me specifically the women that would date me are guaranteed to be queer and thus be at least somewhat queer conscience. So it makes it much easier for them to deal with me coming out to them, because it isn’t something entirely outside their previous experience. Now, if I felt an emotional connection to someone, I wouldn’t let that stop me, but perhaps I am subconsciously selecting women primarily as partners because they feel safer. I don’t know.
Also, good luck on figuring out how to express yourself safely. As a passing trans woman, I have a lot of privilege that I don’t know gets acknowledged enough in my cis friends falling over themselves to congratulate me on being so brave. I mean, I know personally that it isn’t easy being me, but there are people that have to deal with so much more shit than me it isn’t funny.
I’m rambling, but I definitely agree that cis men are taught to “get a commodity”, ie a conventionally attractive wife, and cis women are taught to “help the one you love”. While this message assumes that person is going to be a man, it is a lot less ideological ground to cover than “get commodity”. And yes, both of these messages are problematic.
I made the comment about sexually repressed above, and I have been thinking about it more and talking to my M2F friends about it. 2 of the three M2F people I know say their sexuality was repressed before their transition because of their body image problems. The body did not feel like it was the right body, so they did not feel sexual with it. One of them used the simile it was like masturbating with oven mitts. Also Sam may have been repressed by daddy issues about his “son” when “son” is really daughter.
I’ve forgotten now — is this the first time we’ve seen a hint of Sam’s sexual orientation? (Not counting her aspect from the library scene.)
Yep
So for whatever reason she was sexually repressed before the library, right? Either from Dear Old Dad or something else.
This should be fun. I anticipate much sexy hijinks in the future.
No, Sam, you can’t cheat on Brit!…
oh, wait, that’s not canon, is it?
yet….
do you have a fan fiction? if so you need to share!
as soon as the necessary brain-space to web-space upload finishes :3
I’m like, I should read some transgender webcomics where the main character isn’t also queer. I guess I’ll read mock girl, she seems like a very nice, very straight-
never mind. I’m not complaining though 🙂
Hooray for queer trans women!
I thought the same thing, but came at it from a different direction, and kind-of wanted to have a discussion about it: so here’s my thoughts, regurgitated on a ‘random’ comment thread on the internet.
The Lesbian Trans-Woman trope appears fairly often.
Most of the Transpeople I know of have Female partners.
Without any citation, and based solely off of my personal expierence: I feel that this is because of both real and imagined non-acceptance of Transpeople by cisgender men. Men are socialized to “not be a sissy”, and I feel like part of that bleeds over to their relationships. In essence: men who are dating dating any non-cis-females are constantly challenging that societal taboo, few grow past it. I feel that Women (and Non-Binary and Transpeople), are the only ones who are “open-minded” enough to have a ‘safe’ and meaningful relationship with.
Also a Cis-person with a Trans or NB partner who sticks around (I feel) is more likely to grow into a NB individual anyways. Stereotypical Gender Norms be dying, yo!
Context: I’m an Androgyne individual who was socialized male for 30-odd years, and has had trouble balancing the Female side of their psyche. I’m still petrified of exactly how to express myself in public when I’m feeling particularly fem.
Well, honestly, the reason that I wanted a straight trans woman’s narrative is because I wanted something outside of my own experience. I’ve noticed that basically all the trans webcomics on the internet are also some kind of not straight orientation. This applies to trans guys too though, so I personally think it’s more that the type of trans person who is highly motivated to be visible, either in personal interactions or by writing a webcomic, belongs to the double minority of trans and queer people. Or at least that is how it seems to me.
Anyway, as a trans bi woman that is much more commonly attracted to women than men, I would have to say that honestly it has less to do for me with being unable to find cis men that would accept me and more just that I tend to like girls more. However, I live on a large college campus, so I am certainly insulated from a large amount of close minded cis men.
However, on the other hand, for me specifically the women that would date me are guaranteed to be queer and thus be at least somewhat queer conscience. So it makes it much easier for them to deal with me coming out to them, because it isn’t something entirely outside their previous experience. Now, if I felt an emotional connection to someone, I wouldn’t let that stop me, but perhaps I am subconsciously selecting women primarily as partners because they feel safer. I don’t know.
Also, good luck on figuring out how to express yourself safely. As a passing trans woman, I have a lot of privilege that I don’t know gets acknowledged enough in my cis friends falling over themselves to congratulate me on being so brave. I mean, I know personally that it isn’t easy being me, but there are people that have to deal with so much more shit than me it isn’t funny.
I’m rambling, but I definitely agree that cis men are taught to “get a commodity”, ie a conventionally attractive wife, and cis women are taught to “help the one you love”. While this message assumes that person is going to be a man, it is a lot less ideological ground to cover than “get commodity”. And yes, both of these messages are problematic.
I guess I’m hoping she’s bisexual so we can see how she deals with F/M as well as F/F relationships.
I made the comment about sexually repressed above, and I have been thinking about it more and talking to my M2F friends about it. 2 of the three M2F people I know say their sexuality was repressed before their transition because of their body image problems. The body did not feel like it was the right body, so they did not feel sexual with it. One of them used the simile it was like masturbating with oven mitts. Also Sam may have been repressed by daddy issues about his “son” when “son” is really daughter.